- Title: Taylor Swift concert fiasco leads to U.S. Senate grilling for Ticketmaster
- Date: 24th January 2023
- Summary: WASHINGTON, D.C., UNITED STATES (JANUARY 24, 2023) (UNRESTRICTED POOL) SENATE JUDICIARY CHAIR DICK DURBIN, WALKING IN TO BE SEATED WITNESS PANEL AT U.S. SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HEARING GENERAL OF PARTICIPANTS ARRIVING PRESIDENT AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF LIVE NATION JOE BERCHTOLD, AT HEARING SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR, WHO HEADS THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE'S ANTITRUST PANEL, TALKING TO WITNESSES DURIN CALLING HEARING INTO ORDER AND WELCOMING EVERYONE DURIN SWEARING-IN WITNESSES VARIOUS OF WITNESSES BEING SWORN-IN DURING WELCOMING BERCHTOLD BEFORE HIS OPENING STATEMENT / KLOBUCHAR SMILING (SOUNDBITE) (English) PRESIDENT AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF LIVE NATION, JOE BERCHTOLD, SAYING: (SOUNDBITE CONTINUES OVER SHOT OF WITNESS PANEL, SENATOR LOOKING ON) ''There are problems in the ticketing industry, problems we believe can and should be addressed through legislation. Many are the direct result of industrial scale ticket scalping that goes on today. A $5 billion industry in concerts alone in the United States, fueled by practices that run counter to the interests of artists and their fans. The recent on sale experience with Taylor Swift, one of the world's most popular artists, has highlighted the need to address these issues urgently. We knew bots would attack that on sale and planned accordingly. We were then hit with three times the amount of bot traffic that we'd ever experienced and for the first time in 400 verified fan on sales that came after our verified fair on pass password servers as well. While the bots failed to penetrate our systems or require any tickets, the attack requires us to slow down and even pause our sales. This is what led to a terrible consumer experience, which we deeply regret. We apologize to the fans. We apologize to Ms.. Swift. We need to do better and we will do better.'' WITNESSES DURING SENATE HEARING (SOUNDBITE) (English) PRESIDENT AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF LIVE NATION, JOE BERCHTOLD, SAYING: ''In hindsight, there are several things we could have done better and let me be clear that Ticketmaster accepts its responsibility as being the first line of defense against bots in our industry to an ever escalating arms race. But in this forum where we're here to discuss public policy, we also need to recognize how industrial scalpers using bots and cyber attacks unfairly gain tickets, has contributed to this awful experience. There are many things we can and should accomplish together. We should enlarge the scope of the Bots act and increase enforcement. We should enact categorical prohibitions on fraudulent ticket practices, including deceptive URLs and offering for sale tickets before they're on sale in the primary. We should mandate all in pricing so that fans see the full cost of their tickets from the start. We share your goal of making live entertainment industry better for artists, teams and fans alike. And it's in that spirit that I sit before you today to work with you to make the fan experience better.'' VARIOUS OF DURBIN WELCOMING COFOUNDER OF TICKET SALES PLATFORM SEATGEEK, JACK GROETZINGER GROETZINGER AT START OF SPEECH (NOT A SOUNDBITE) (SOUNDBITE) (English) COFOUNDER OF TICKET SALES PLATFORM SEATGEEK, JACK GROETZINGER, SAYING: ''As long as Live Nation remains both the dominant concert promoter and ticket share of major venues in the U.S., the industry will continue to lack competition and struggle.'' GROETZINGER DURING HEARING (NOT A SOUNDBITE) (SOUNDBITE) (English) COFOUNDER OF TICKET SALES PLATFORM SEATGEEK, JACK GROETZINGER, SAYING: "And yet believe that the experience of actually buying tickets is very much the opposite. It's antiquated, ripe for innovation." SENATORS DURING HEARING (SOUNDBITE) (English) REPUBLICAN SENATOR, MIKE LEE, SAYING: "And consider whether or to what extent, in what ways new legislation or perhaps just better enforcement of existing laws might be needed to protect the American people." WITNESSES DURING SENATE HEARING (SOUNDBITE) (English) REPUBLICAN SENATOR, JOHN KENNEDY, SAYING: "Berchtold I'm not against big per se. I am against dumb. And the way your company handled the ticket sales from Ms Swift was a debacle, and whoever in your company was in charge of that ought to be fired." WITNESSES DURING SENATE HEARING (SOUNDBITE) (English) REPUBLICAN SENATOR, JOHN KENNEDY, SAYING: "I hear others saying you're making too much money and that's hurting the consumer because those fees gets passed on. If you care about the consumer cap the price, cut out the bots, cut out the middle people and if you really care about the consumer, give the consumer a break." SENATE HEARING IN SESSION (SOUNDBITE) (English) REPUBLICAN SENATOR, MARSHA BLACKBURN, SAYING: "This is unbelievable. You ought to be able to get some good advice from some people and figure this out." KLOBUCHARD ENDING HEARING SENATORS AND WITNESSES STANDING UP TO LEAVE
- Embargoed: 7th February 2023 20:28
- Keywords: Live Nation Taylor Swift ticket sales Ticketmaster U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee hearing U.S. lawmakers
- Location: WASHINGTON, D.C., UNITED STATES
- City: WASHINGTON, D.C., UNITED STATES
- Country: US
- Topics: Lawmaking,North America,Government/Politics
- Reuters ID: LVA001481324012023RP1
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- Story Text:U.S. senators slammed Live Nation Entertainment's lack of transparency and inability to block bot purchases of tickets on Tuesday (January 24), in a hearing called after a major fiasco involving ticket sales for Taylor Swift's upcoming concert tour.
Live Nation Entertainment Inc subsidiary Ticketmaster, which has been unpopular with fans for years, has drawn fresh heat from U.S. lawmakers over how it handled ticket sales last fall for Swift's "Eras" tour, her first in five years. Experts say Ticketmaster commands more than 70% market share of primary ticket services for major U.S. concert venues.
"We apologize to the fans, we apologize to Ms. Swift, we need to do better and we will do better," Joe Berchtold, who is president and chief financial officer of Live Nation, told the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Tuesday.
"In hindsight there are several things we could have done better – including staggering the sales over a longer period of time and doing a better job setting fan expectations for getting tickets," Berchtold said.
Republican Senator Mike Lee said in an opening statement that the Ticketmaster debacle highlighted the importance of considering whether "new legislation or perhaps just better enforcement of existing laws might be needed to protect the American people."
Senators slammed Berchtold for Live Nation's fee structure and inability to deal with bots which bulk buy tickets and resell them at inflated prices.
Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar criticised a lack of transparency, responding to Berchtold's claim that Live Nation fees fluctuate based on "ratings."
Republican Senator Marsha Blackburn called Live Nation's bot problem "unbelievable," pointing out that much smaller companies are able to limit bad actors in their systems.
"You ought to be able to get some good advice from people and figure it out," she said.
"I'm not against big per se, but I am against dumb," Republican Senator John Kennedy said, referring to Live Nation's dominance in the ticket sales market. "The way your company handled ticket sales for Ms. Swift was a debacle, and whoever in your company was in charge of that should be fired.
"If you care about the consumer, cut the price! Cut out the bots! Cut out the middle people and if you really care about the consumer, give the consumer a break!"
Jack Groetzinger, cofounder of ticket sales platform SeatGeek, testified that the process of buying tickets is "antiquated and ripe for innovation" and called for the breakup of Live Nation and Ticketmaster, which merged in 2010.
"As long as Live Nation remains both the dominant concert promoter and ticketer of major venues in the U.S., the industry will continue to lack competition and struggle," he told lawmakers.
Ticketmaster has argued that the bots used by scalpers were behind the Taylor Swift debacle, and Berchtold asked for more help in fighting the bots that buy tickets for resale.
Other witnesses include Jerry Mickelson, president of JAM Productions, who has been among critics of Ticketmaster.
In November, Ticketmaster canceled a planned ticket sale to the general public for Swift's tour after more than 3.5 billion requests from fans, bots and scalpers overwhelmed its website.
In November, Ticketmaster denied any anticompetitive practices and noted it remained under a consent decree with the Justice Department following its 2010 merger with Live Nation, adding that there was no "evidence of systemic violations of the consent decree."
A previous Ticketmaster dispute with the Justice Department culminated in a December 2019 settlement extending the consent agreement into 2025.
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