- Title: PRESIDENT MANDELA VISITS MRS BETSIE VERWOERD INì ORANIA IN NORTHERN CAPE:
- Date: 15th August 1995
- Summary: PRESIDENT MANDELA VISITS MRS BETSIE VERWOERD INì ORANIA IN NORTHERN CAPE:
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- City: ORANIA
- Country: South Africa
- Reuters ID: 95AUG15V01
- Story Text:PRESIDENT MANDELA VISITS MRS BETSIE VERWOERD INì
ORANIA IN NORTHERN CAPE:
11.40.15 MANDELA'S CHOPPER [PUMA] TOUCHING DOWN
11.40.52 CUTAWAY PRESS
11.42.05 MRS ALBERTINA SISULU GETTING OUT CHOPPER
11.42.16 MANDELA GETTING OFF
11.42.29 SHAKING HANDS WITH PROF KAREL BOSHOFFì
[SON-IN-LAW OF DR HENDRIK VERWOERD ARCHITECT OFì
APARTHEID]
11.44.30 MANDELA CHATTING TO TYPICAL AFRIKANER BOY
11.45.37 BETSIE VERWOERD WAITING
11.48.34 MANDELA GREETING BETSIE
12.01.16 WIDE PRESS GATHERED OUTSIDE BUILDING
12.34.37 MANDELA & BETSIE COMING OUT
12.34.50 LITTLE BOY WALKING UP TO SHAKE MANDELA'Sì
HAND
12.35.16 MANDELA: ...I think she is also aì
phsycologist...she must have conducted someì
research as to my tastes because, one of my lovelyì
dishes is "koeksisters" & there were plenty ofì
them here...
12.35.40 I briefed her on a wide variety ofì
issues, firstly some of the things I didì
immediately after my inauguration. I went aroundì
all the various religious organisations in theì
country...
12.36.23 ...I also pointed out that in my visitsì
of religious organizations I went to the ??? Dutchì
Reformed Church in PTA...
12.37.05 ...if I had gone to that church only 2ì
years ago the security forces would have had toì
defend me against people who wanted to kill me outì
of hatred but on that occassion the securityì
forces had to defend me against people who wantedì
to kill me out of love!
12.38.55 ...I'm very delighted the manner in whichì
she welcomed me...
12.39.20 ...Rooibos tea was my favourite in prison
12.39.45 ...as usual we always think that othersì
have horns before you actually meet them. This wasì
our impression for example before the firstì
meeting between the NEC of the ANC & leaders ofì
the NP...
12.40.07 ...but when we met although we differedì
very sharply in some issues one of the things thatì
emerged was that none of us had horns & that isì
what has happened here. The way in which we wereì
received by everybody inside Orania was as if Iì
was in Soweto.
12.40.41 HAVE DISCUSSED MATTER WITH SOME MEBERS OFì
VOLKSTAATRAAD - PREPARED TO CONSIDER THE IDEA OF Aì
VOLKSTAAT ON 3 CONDITIONS: Firstly that thereì
should be a referendum amongst Afrikaners...
12.41.27 ...secondly, I have said that the resultsì
of a referendum will not necessarily bind me butì
it will be an important factor in consideringì
whether we should accept this demand,
12.41.46 and thirdly, we must have a clearì
definition as to who is an Afrikaner. Is it aì
white man who speaks Afrikaans; is it anybody whoì
speaks Afrikaans Africans, coloureds, Indians & soì
on...
12.43.23 ...I'm not worried about people statingì
their point of view. I know what my point of viewì
is. I will have discussions with them & the bestì
weapon is to sit down and talk because I amì
convinced of the correctness of my stand.
12.43.38 I want a united SA where we cease toì
think i.t.o colour; we think i.t.o ability, i.t.o.
merit...
12.44.00 MIXED SCHOOLS ...will see with theì
emergence of that generation, ethnic thinking isì
going to be undermined & you're going to get aì
generation that thinks i.t.o SA as a whole & i.t.oì
merit.
12.44.28 CUTAWAY PRESS
12.44.44 THEY'RE ENTITLED TO RUN THNEIR SETTLEMENTì
AS THEY LIKE AS LONG NO RESTRICTIONS ON ME
12.44.55 BLACK JOURNALIST ASKING "WHAT ABOUT ME?'
12.45.03 MANDELA RESPONDING WITH SMILE If we areì
asked to have a Pass to come in here then ofì
course we have to ask every citizen of of ORANIAì
when he crosses the Orange River to produce a Passì
I don't think that they would like that...
12.45.28 COMMENTS ABOUT SHIRT - RE TUTU TOLD HIMì
THAT HE DRESSES BADLY I said to theì
Archbishop...let's not enter into a discussionì
where there can be no solution [LAUGHTER]
12.46.26 WIDE MANDELA PUTTING ARM AROUND MRSì
VERWOERD'S SHOULDERS
12.47.34 BETSIE VERWOERD READING SHORT STATEMENT -ì
THANKING PRESIDENT FOR HIS VISIT; SHE'S HAPPY &ì
CONTENT IN ORANIA BECAUSE SHE GREW UP IN THE KAROOì
BUT ALSO BECAUSE SHE IDENTIFIES WITH PLIGHT OF THEì
AFRIKANER TO HAVE A VOLKSTAAT; ASKS MANDELA TOì
CONSIDER THIS WITH WISDOM & WITH SYMPATHY
12.54.36 STATUE OF DR HF VERWOERD
12.57.05 MANDELA & KAREL BOSHOFF WALKING ZOOM OUTì
STATUE
12.58.11 MANDELA Many questions were asked whetherì
I would come & see the statue. To me it makes noì
difference. I'm prepared to visit any place ofì
interest...
12.58.32 ...the statues of Verwoerd have beenì
removed from certain places & in many cases thisì
has been done by people I respect tremendously...
12.58.53 ...hope you understand there is stillì
alot of anger & bitterness about the experiencesì
our people have had in the past & it is not easyì
especially over the period of 14 months to changeì
the mind-set of people...
13.00.04 MANDELA SHAKING HANDS WITH PREMIER TERRORì
LEKOTA [FREESTATE]
13.01.19 CUTAWAY KAREL BOSHOFF
13.01.47 INSCRIPTION TILT UP TO MANDELA & LEKOTA
13.05.42 "VIERKLEUR" FLAG
13.07.56 WIDE GV'S ORANIA
13.23.58 EXT GV'S ORANIA MUSEUM
13.34.11 MANDELA COMING OUT
13.37.11 POLICE IN VELD SURROUNDING HILLS
13.47.47 CARS DRIVING THROUGH
13.50.35 TRACKING GV'S OF TOWN
13.53.23 MANDELA GETTING BACK INTO CHOPPER
13.56.42 CHOPPER PILOTS READY FOR TAKE-OFF
13.57.04 CU ROTER BLADES
13.59.54 CHOPPER TAKING OFF - Copyright Holder: Visnews
